# Paraview 5.9.1 does not start
**URL:** https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611
**Category:** ParaView Support
**Created:** [December 13, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611 "2021-12-13T00:01:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/1 "2021-12-13T00:01:32Z")
on my amd processor windows 10 machine paraview does not startup, using AMD Radeon HD 7700 graphics controller.
5.9.1 works well on my windows 10 intel laptop machine
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 8:19am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/2 "2021-12-13T08:19:37Z")
Please try with 5.10-RC2
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/3 "2021-12-13T16:26:01Z")
Thank you Mathieu, I tried 5.10-RC2 (AMD 64). Unfortunately, this did not work.
I can see it startup in the task manager but it disappears quickly.
My PC has both python 3.4.3 (windows) and Ubuntu python 3.8.10 if that makes a difference.
I am willing to buy another graphics controller to use as 2nd controller… any suggestion on which one to purchase?
THanks,
Mike
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/4 "2021-12-13T19:29:28Z")
hard to say, not yet sure this is a graphical problem. Your GPU should be enough.
I would try to do that first:
> [@Recover OpenGL Informations from pvpython](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/recover-opengl-informations-from-pvpython/1536):
>
> The OpenGL informations, visible in Help → About dialog, are not easily recoverable in pvpython yet. Here is how to do it. On ParaView 5.6 and earlier versions: import vtk as VTK openGLInfo=VTK.vtkPVOpenGLInformation() session=servermanager.vtkSMProxyManager.GetProxyManager().GetActiveSession() session.GatherInformation(session.CLIENT, openGLInfo, 0) openGLInfo.GetVendor() openGLInfo.GetVersion() openGLInfo.GetRenderer() openGLInfo.GetCapabilities() On ParaView 5.7.X : openGLInfo=serverman…
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/5 "2021-12-13T21:05:22Z")
Tried several of the script like:
openGLInfo = GetOpenGLInformation()
openGLInfo.GetVendor()
openGLInfo.GetVersion()
openGLInfo.GetRenderer()
openGLInfo.GetCapabilities()
I get an error
NameError: name ‘GetOpenGLInformation’ is not defined
As you can see, I am not expert… help please. Mike
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/6 "2021-12-13T22:05:50Z")
you need first to call `from paraview.simple import *`
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/7 "2021-12-14T21:35:45Z")
When I execute the below on the computer (running python 3.4) that will not run Paraview
from paraview.simple import \*
openGLInfo = GetOpenGLInformation()
openGLInfo.GetVendor()
openGLInfo.GetVersion()
openGLInfo.GetRenderer()
openGLInfo.GetCapabilities()
I get: ImportError: No module named ‘paraview’
On another computer, that runs paraview, I tried running the same code from a python 3.4 shell and get the same ImportError: No module named ‘paraview’
However, running from the Paraview python shell window the code works!
I am thinking that the Paraview on this machine has it’s own newer version of python and is why the code works.
Upshot is… I can not get the openGLinfo on the machine that won’t load Paraview…
I am spending a lot of time on something that should just work… but I will keep trying.
so, do I need to load a new version of python to get the openGLinfo you requested?
THanks, Mike
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### Author:  [@aron.helser](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/aron.helser)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/8 "2021-12-14T21:40:39Z")
You need to run from inside `pvpython`, which sets up the environment correctly to allow that `from paraview.simple import *` statement to work.
`pvpython.exe` is shipped with ParaView, in the `bin` directory next to `paraview.exe`
HTH,
Aron
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/9 "2021-12-14T23:58:37Z")
Mistake.
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/10 "2021-12-15T00:30:38Z")
Yes, that did the trick.
Results from machine that won’t start ParaView.
Any suggestions?
Thank you, Mike
```auto
Python 3.9.5 (tags/v3.9.5:0a7dcbd, May 3 2021, 17:27:52) [MSC v.1928 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from paraview.simple import *
>>> openGLInfo = GetOpenGLInformation()
>>> print(openGLInfo.GetVendor())
ATI Technologies Inc.
>>> print(openGLInfo.GetVersion())
4.5.14831 Core Profile Context 21.5.2 27.20.20903.8001
>>> print(openGLInfo.GetRenderer())
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
GL_AMD_query_buffer_object
GL_AMD_sample_positions
GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture
GL_AMD_shader_atomic_counter_ops
GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export
GL_AMD_shader_stencil_value_export
GL_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax
GL_AMD_sparse_texture
GL_AMD_stencil_operation_extended
GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array
GL_AMD_texture_texture4
GL_AMD_transform_feedback3_lines_triangles
GL_AMD_transform_feedback4
GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer
GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index
GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility
GL_ARB_ES3_1_compatibility
GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility
GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays
GL_ARB_base_instance
GL_ARB_bindless_texture
GL_ARB_blend_func_extended
GL_ARB_buffer_storage
GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object
GL_ARB_clear_texture
GL_ARB_clip_control
GL_ARB_color_buffer_float
GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage
GL_ARB_compute_shader
GL_ARB_conditional_render_inverted
GL_ARB_conservative_depth
GL_ARB_copy_buffer
GL_ARB_copy_image
GL_ARB_cull_distance
GL_ARB_debug_output
GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float
GL_ARB_depth_clamp
GL_ARB_depth_texture
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GL_ARB_direct_state_access
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GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend
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GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments
GL_ARB_framebuffer_object
GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB
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GL_ARB_polygon_offset_clamp
GL_ARB_program_interface_query
GL_ARB_provoking_vertex
GL_ARB_query_buffer_object
GL_ARB_robust_buffer_access_behavior
GL_ARB_sample_shading
GL_ARB_sampler_objects
GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map
GL_ARB_seamless_cubemap_per_texture
GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counter_ops
GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters
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GL_ARB_shader_draw_parameters
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GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shader_precision
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GL_ARB_shader_storage_buffer_object
GL_ARB_shader_subroutine
GL_ARB_shader_texture_image_samples
GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod
GL_ARB_shader_viewport_layer_array
GL_ARB_shading_language_100
GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack
GL_ARB_shading_language_include
GL_ARB_shading_language_packing
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GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texgen_reflection
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_array
GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object
GL_EXT_texture_compression_bptc
GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc
GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_texture_integer
GL_EXT_texture_lod
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_object
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_R8
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_RG8
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode
GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent
GL_EXT_texture_snorm
GL_EXT_texture_storage
GL_EXT_texture_swizzle
GL_EXT_timer_query
GL_EXT_transform_feedback
GL_EXT_vertex_array
GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra
GL_EXT_vertex_attrib_64bit
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_KHR_context_flush_control
GL_KHR_debug
GL_KHR_no_error
GL_KHR_parallel_shader_compile
GL_KHR_robust_buffer_access_behavior
GL_KHR_robustness
GL_KTX_buffer_region
GL_NV_alpha_to_coverage_dither_control
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_conditional_render
GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color
GL_NV_copy_image
GL_NV_depth_buffer_float
GL_NV_explicit_multisample
GL_NV_float_buffer
GL_NV_half_float
GL_NV_primitive_restart
GL_NV_shader_atomic_int64
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_texture_barrier
GL_OES_EGL_image
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GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
GL_WIN_swap_hint
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PixelFormat Descriptor:
depth: 24
class: TrueColor
buffer size: 32
level: 0
renderType: rgba
double buffer: True
stereo: False
hardware acceleration: True
rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8blueSize=8alphaSize=8
aux buffers: 4
depth size: 24
stencil size: 8
accum: redSize=0 greenSize=0blueSize=0alphaSize=0
```
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/11 "2021-12-15T08:54:04Z")
Please try the following in pvpython:
```auto
from paraview.simple import *
Sphere()
Show()
Render()
```
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/12 "2021-12-15T15:44:13Z")
Hi Mathieu,
I tried these commands on my computer that opens paraview and got a rendered sphere.
On the suspect computer I get this far:
Python 3.9.5 (tags/v3.9.5:0a7dcbd, May 3 2021, 17:27:52) [MSC v.1928 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type “help”, “copyright”, “credits” or “license” for more information.
> > > from paraview.simple import \*
> > > Sphere()
> > > \
The next command, Show() causes the command window to close. Tried this several times.
Thanks,
Mike
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/13 "2021-12-15T16:02:41Z")
what is the output of, from a terminal :
```auto
glxinfo
glxsphere
```
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/14 "2021-12-15T16:18:51Z")
I do not know how to do what you asked…
What do you mean by terminal?
I need hand holding.
Thanks
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/15 "2021-12-15T16:32:16Z")
My bad, I forgot you are on windows.
Please try to update your graphical driver.
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/16 "2021-12-15T16:36:40Z")
Thanks, Yes I tried updating the driver and it says I have the most updated one.
Can we conclude my GPU is the most likely cause for Paraview not starting?
Is there a list of GPU’s tested with Paraview?
Mike
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/17 "2021-12-15T17:01:04Z")
Your GPU should work with ParaView.
> Is there a list of GPU’s tested with Paraview?
All modern GPU are compatible with ParaView.
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### Author:  [@mwestphal](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mwestphal)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/18 "2021-12-15T17:02:15Z")
BTW you can try this solution:
> [@How to run ParaView (including the binary release) using Mesa on Windows](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/how-to-run-paraview-including-the-binary-release-using-mesa-on-windows/4321/8):
>
> For those who mesa-dist-win did not work as expected, you could also possibly grab the OpenGL3d.dll from [Mesa3D For Windows - Federico Dossena](https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa/index.frag) and follow the same instructions as the one given in the OP. This has worked for me in Virtual Machines instances of Windows 10.
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/19 "2021-12-15T18:55:20Z")
Did not work for me.
Mike
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### Author:  [@mtmorrione](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/mtmorrione)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-5-9-1-does-not-start/8611/20 "2021-12-26T00:24:58Z")
Solved the problem of Paraview not opening on desktop.
I downloaded ParaView-5.8.0-Windows-Python3.7-msvc2015-64bit.exe to try an older version and Paraview appeared on my desktop. Of course, I don’t now why, but I did notice during the install I was asked if I wanted certain packages loaded… Maybe the newer versions should include these?
Mike