# Paraview Gui crashes on Windows 10 with large file
**URL:** https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876
**Category:** ParaView Support
**Created:** [November 24, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876 "2020-11-24T11:42:57Z")
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/1 "2020-11-24T11:42:57Z")
Hi there
I am able to load a state file, I can scroll in table data (1.8M points & 900K lines) - but the gui crashes as soon as I try and explore the rendering 3D zone.
I m running on Windows 10 32Gb Ram NVIDIA GTX 670 - driver ver. 457.30
I have tried ParaView-5.8.1-Windows-Python3.7-msvc2015-64bit and ParaView-5.6.2-Windows-msvc2015-64bit.exe. I am using the GUI only (I have never been able to use the 3 tiers config, even if all running on same machine, the pvserver always dies without warning)
(the same pipeline works well when using a smaller input file [CSV with 5000points / 2500 lines], and I m able to use the 3D rendering window normally)
If I put glyphs only (all) - I can use the 3D window, but not when viewing the lines (see pattern below in screenshots)
Can you please suggest something I may try?
Thanks a lot
Charlie
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/2 "2020-11-24T11:48:11Z")
detail of the pattern that is computed via programmable source (reading csv+building points + lines) + calculator (orientation array for glyphs) + Glyph (2D at each point so it overlays with the lines)
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/3 "2020-11-24T11:50:04Z")
when I try to load / browse 400 times this (reading a larger file), GUI crashes when browsing the 3D view
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/4 "2020-11-24T11:54:11Z")
I am able to load the large file & browse in 3D If I only display the glyphs :
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/5 "2020-11-24T13:58:44Z")
FYI from event viewer - (sorry for the French 😉 ) it is similar with 5.6.2
Nom de l’application défaillante paraview.exe, version : 0.0.0.0, horodatage : 0x5f2a301f
Nom du module défaillant : vtkCommonCore-pv5.8.dll, version : 0.0.0.0, horodatage : 0x5f2a2937
Code d’exception : 0xc0000005
Décalage d’erreur : 0x00000000002a8e21
ID du processus défaillant : 0x88c
Heure de début de l’application défaillante : 0x01d6c25207dc3ddc
Chemin d’accès de l’application défaillante : C:\Program Files\ParaView 5.8.1-Windows-Python3.7-msvc2015-64bit\bin\paraview.exe
Chemin d’accès du module défaillant: C:\Program Files\ParaView 5.8.1-Windows-Python3.7-msvc2015-64bit\bin\vtkCommonCore-pv5.8.dll
ID de rapport : 271c7ac4-8cc9-4c1c-887a-df014f19c771
Nom complet du package défaillant :
ID de l’application relative au package défaillant :
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### Author:  [@wascott](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/wascott)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/6 "2020-11-24T17:20:09Z")
My guess is the obvious - you are running out of memory. Try opening the task manager, what is ParaView’s size? Also, turn on the Tools/ Memory Inspector. Is ParaView running out of memory?
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/7 "2020-11-24T20:53:41Z")
Hi ! Well paraview.exe is using 1.4GB of RAM (stable & before crashing) but I have 32GB in total, with (16GB still available on system as shown RamMap). Is it expected that Paraview cannot go further ? Thanks a lot for your help. Charlie
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### Author:  [@wascott](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/wascott)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/8 "2020-11-24T21:10:36Z")
How big is the input file? Is it small enough to download?
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/9 "2020-11-24T22:18:18Z")
here you go : scene file + csv if you want to play - you need to adjust the path to csv file in programmable source
thanks a lot!
Charlie
[export1M.pvsm](https://discourse.paraview.org/uploads/short-url/61eOBQWGhh4urVH9Ehle3FFkvs7.pvsm) (344.8 KB)
[motif-segmentsAB-1M-v0.1.csv.zip](https://discourse.paraview.org/uploads/short-url/9vW9trbnEZIUjfwhxGPkrVGcbNY.zip) (2.8 MB)
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/10 "2020-11-25T17:29:46Z")
Hi Walter, any luck from your side? I will try and do other tests using different data structure but in same range of numbers to see… Thanks for your help !
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### Author:  [@wascott](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/wascott)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/11 "2020-11-25T21:20:40Z")
Replicated macOS and Windows 10. This was on ParaView 5.8.0. It is NOT a memory issue. Obviously, not a Windows 10 only issue.
5.9.0-RC1 appears to be working corerctly. Please give that a try.
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### Author:  [@Charliebrowne](https://discourse.paraview.org/u/Charliebrowne)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://discourse.paraview.org/t/paraview-gui-crashes-on-windows-10-with-large-file/5876/12 "2020-11-26T07:59:08Z")
yeahh ! It works with 5.9.0-RC1 !! Thanks a lot for your help !